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Katie: Whats up and welcome to the Wellness Mama podcast. I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com. And this episode is all about one thing referred to as autojuvenation, which is principally find out how to use your physique’s personal regenerative potential to feel and appear youthful. And I’m right here with Dr. Anthony Youn, who is called America’s holistic plastic surgeon. He’s a nationally acknowledged board-certified plastic surgeon who’s acknowledged as a pacesetter in his subject and creator of the bestselling books, The Age Repair, In Stitches, and Taking part in God. His public tv particular, The Age Repair with Dr. Anthony Youn, has been considered by thousands and thousands. And he additionally hosts the favored podcast, The Holistic Plastic Surgical procedure Present.

He’s probably the most adopted plastic surgeon on social media with over 4.5 million subscribers on his YouTube channel and eight million followers on TikTok. And his new guide, Youthful for Life, is a whole holistic information to turning again the clock on the method of ageing with autojuvenation. And we go deep on that subject right this moment, in addition to procedures he does and doesn’t advocate, how he thinks that a lot could be completed with out ever turning to surgical procedure to actually enhance pores and skin look and switch again the clock on ageing. And he offers some very particular suggestions for this. He’s so well-spoken and such a pleasure to speak to. So, let’s be a part of Dr. Anthony. Tony, welcome. Thanks a lot for being right here.

Anthony: Thanks a lot for having me.

Katie: I’m actually excited for this dialog and to speak about how we are able to basically use our physique’s pure processes to age extra gracefully and even slower or reverse among the indicators of ageing. However earlier than we leap into that, I’ve a be aware out of your bio that you just as soon as performed guitar and sang in a Jimmy Buffett cowl band. And since we not too long ago misplaced him, I might love to listen to this story and the way that began and what it was like.

Anthony: Yeah, I imply, I truly began taking part in guitar again in school, and I’m very mediocre of a guitarist and singer. And so, after I began my residency, I simply, I’ve at all times had this sort of inventive streak. And I believed, you already know, I’m this massive fan of Jimmy Buffett. And I heard that there have been some people who find themselves keen on placing a band collectively. So, I emailed a contact I had, and he stated, let’s do it. And we spent about, so I used to be, I did 5 years of residency. And through that point, we most likely did about 50 or 60 gigs the place we’d do like play at events, at bars and stuff. And it was my approach of, I believe, residing out a, if I may choose one job that I may have that I simply, there’s no approach I may ever do, however I might love can be like a rock star. And that was the closest that I’ll ever get to it. And as soon as I completed residency, I truly moved out to California. Since then, I’ve truly, and the band broke up, however since then I’ve performed for my church band often and stuff like that. So, it’s, it was a variety of enjoyable, however. It was undoubtedly tiring as a result of as a resident, I might even have days the place I’d work 36 hours after which I would go away the hospital, get become my like tropical garments and go play from 10 p.m. to 2 a.m. at a bar after which be again to work the following morning at 6 a.m. So, it was powerful, however it was enjoyable.

Katie: Wow, I can solely think about, however most likely an incredible inventive outlet throughout an in any other case extraordinarily targeted and intense interval of life. I really like that you just did that and that’s truly an ideal springboard into what would be the bulk of our dialog right this moment, which is the work that you just do now and the numerous hundreds of individuals that you just’ve helped. I believe for sort of simply background and start line, you utilize a time period that I’ve not heard earlier than, which I imagine is autojuvenation. And I might love so that you can clarify what which means and sort of among the background for this dialog.

Anthony: Yeah, so simply to provide the background, I completed cosmetic surgery residency coaching, and I did a 12 months fellowship in beauty cosmetic surgery out in Beverly Hills with one of many high plastic surgeons there. Then I moved again to Michigan, and I began my follow again in 2004. And throughout the subsequent most likely 5 to seven years, I reached what I believed was a pinnacle of success. On the time, as a surgeon, you gauge your success by the quantity of surgical procedure that you just do. And we’re at all times taught in our residency and our coaching that the objective of being a surgeon is to convey individuals to the working room. And so, I at all times imagine that that ought to be my objective.

After which a affected person utterly modified that and flipped that the other way up for me. So, I believed I’d reached the head of success. And while you take a look at completely different fields of medication, particularly with surgical procedure, there’s at all times a surgical procedure that’s thought of the head. And when you try this, you are feeling achieved. In case you’re a common surgeon, that’s the Whipple. It’s like an enormous most cancers surgical procedure that may take eight to 12 hours. In cosmetic surgery, it’s most likely the facelift. I imply, as a result of individuals might belief anyone to do their liposuction, however you’ll be darn certain if any person’s gonna reduce in your face that you just’re gonna be very picky about that. And so, about 5 to seven years into follow, I believed that I’d reached the head of success. I used to be having individuals flying in from all around the nation to have me do their surgical procedure and their facelifts and all that. And I had a affected person that I did a faceless on, a very nice girl in her late 60s, and I did an operation on her that went completely. We truly stored her in a single day within the hospital only for routine monitoring. Then she went residence, and she or he went residence on a Friday morning, and that Monday morning I got here into the workplace with a message from her daughter, and the message was, “Why did my mother die?” She died that weekend just some days after I carried out a facelift on her, and it despatched me right into a tailspin. As a result of up till then, I’d by no means really had a complication like that.

And so, I began wanting like, to start with, like what occurred right here? Is there one thing I may have completed to stop this? And it seems she had an enormous coronary heart assault. Now we did have her see a heart specialist previous to her surgical procedure. She received utterly cleared. She had a stress take a look at. Every part was constructive. There’s no purpose why this could have occurred, but it did. And for months, I beat myself up over it. I used to be completely devastated. I thought of closing out my follow, and I actually re-looked at what am I doing with my job, with my profession, with my sufferers?

And I lastly got here to the conclusion that every thing I used to be taught about being a surgeon was mistaken. The objective shouldn’t be to get individuals to the working room. The objective ought to be the alternative. It ought to be, how do I preserve individuals out of the working room, but preserve them feeling nice about themselves and looking out nice and all of that? And so, I actually began to spend years then wanting into various strategies of how do I get individuals the place they wanna be with out bringing them to surgical procedure? And I got here up with this idea of autojuvenation and it’s utilizing your physique’s personal regenerative skills to show again the clock, to present you that look that you just’ve needed, to show again 5, 10 years and assist you to really feel higher about the way you look.

Katie: Wow, that’s fairly the extraordinary story. And I can solely think about what it was like to really have lived that have. However I really like that you just introduced this up, particularly about surgical procedure, as a result of I do know for lots of the mothers listening, this is probably not one thing lots of them have had, however I might guess many have at the least thought of the provision of all of the completely different choices associated to surgical procedure. I do know, weak for me personally, after having six infants, I’ve thought of various kinds of pores and skin removing surgical procedure, for example. And I’ve at all times hesitated and by no means actually seemed into it critically due to simply understanding issues like fascia and the way related the entire physique is. I simply haven’t had a superb instinct about it. However I really like that you just, having such a deep understanding of the surgical aspect, nonetheless got here to this conclusion and now assist individuals keep away from it. I’m curious when you may stroll us by way of among the dangers that include surgical procedure and likewise among the methods round that, as a result of I believe that’s most likely a hope for lots of people to know there are different choices that it seems like that may work actually, very well.

Anthony: Yeah, and I believe that one of many surgical procedures I do a variety of are tummy tuck surgical procedures, and it’s primarily on mothers, individuals who’ve had, ladies who’ve had a number of kids, their pores and skin has been stretched out, it doesn’t look or really feel the identical approach. Now, the dangers of surgical procedure begin with loss of life, and each time any person involves see me in session and so they say, “Hey, what’s the worst factor that may occur, Dr. Youn?” I’ll say, “You may die.” I’ll do every thing in my energy to stop that, and we’ll take all of the steps crucial that we are able to to make this as protected as potential, however it doesn’t matter what I do, like with this affected person who died after the facelift, you simply by no means know, and there’s a loss of life fee with elective surgical procedure, and it’s about one in 50,000 individuals who have beauty surgical procedure will die from the operation.

Now, normally it’s not as a result of a surgeon tousled, it’s normally anesthesia-related problems, underlying diseases, and that kind of factor, however there’s that threat, and in order that’s the very first thing you wanna consider. Particularly with the stomach, it’s a troublesome factor as a result of as soon as once more, each time I get individuals, and I get so many mothers that are available and say, “Hey, I’m enthusiastic about a tummy tuck, what do you assume?” The very first thing I’ll at all times inform them is, when you could be blissful and wholesome and stay a fulfilled life with out going underneath the knife, then it’s best to keep away from surgical procedure. Nonetheless, when you can’t, there are individuals who come to see me and so they’ve had 4 children and their tummy muscle tissues have been so separated, they really have again ache from it, and so they simply don’t really feel themselves the way in which that they wish to really feel, then we are able to discuss in regards to the specifics of the operation. There are a variety of issues that we are able to do now although that may flip again the clock, that can provide us a few of these outcomes that we had been on the lookout for that perhaps 20 years in the past, we didn’t have it, we didn’t have, and so ideally if we are able to attempt to level the affected person in that course, that’s what I attempt to do.

Katie: That is smart. And that’s such an incredible balanced method. And it looks like great, knowledgeable consent. So, for the individuals who nonetheless do select to undergo with it, they’ve a deeper understanding of the danger concerned, most likely have a greater grasp on restoration and issues they’ll do to assist as nicely. However to circle again to this concept of autojuvenation, I really like this as a result of it’s one thing I’ve been researching, at the least the idea of with out having a phrase for it not too long ago. I did lab testing for a corporation I’m contemplating investing in, and I discovered my organic age is definitely virtually 10 years youthful than my chronological age, which was actually thrilling. And in order that’s on a mobile degree.

However I believe for lots of us, there’s additionally that aspect of the exterior dealing with and what our pores and skin appears to be like like, particularly, particularly as ladies. And so, I believe I might like to delve into the causes of that pores and skin ageing that’s seen after which additionally delve into a few of these issues that you just train that may assist reverse that.

Anthony: Yeah, so thanks. So, I might take a look at on the whole, I imagine there are 4 main causes of ageing of our pores and skin. The primary main trigger is collagen degradation. Seventy to 80% of our pores and skin consists of collagen. Collagen is principally what induced our pores and skin to really feel tight and to really feel robust. And there’s collagen in our pores and skin, in our muscle tissues, in our bones, in our joints, and different components of our physique. However as we grow old, actually beginning within the mid to late 20s, we lose about 1% of the thickness of the collagen of our pores and skin yearly. Ladies after menopause that will increase to about 2% a 12 months. And that’s why our pores and skin will get thinner as we grow old. And so, to attempt to combat that course of is likely one of the components of autojuvenation.

Second reason behind ageing of the pores and skin is oxidation or free radicals. Free radicals are principally unstable molecules which might be created because of simply regular metabolism. Our physique creates naturally free radicals as a byproduct of simply being alive. However we are able to get attacked by greater than that relying on what our life-style is. So, consuming a variety of extremely processed and processed meals will enhance our physique’s quantity of free radicals that it has to cope with. Fried meals additionally free radicals. Even extreme stress has been discovered to extend free radicals. And when you may have too many free radicals attacking your physique on the similar time, it may possibly truly injury the DNA in your pores and skin and that may trigger untimely ageing. In order that’s quantity two.

The third reason behind ageing is irritation. And irritation could be acute, or it may be power. Acute irritation can truly be a superb factor. If you get a reduce and your physique reacts to the reduce by creating some irritation to heal that reduce, that’s truly a superb factor. Generally doing sure issues, like let’s say getting a laser remedy or a chemical peel could be acute irritation and that may trigger the pores and skin truly to be younger afterwards and the collagen to be tighter and younger showing and molecularly as nicely.

And so, a power irritation just isn’t a superb factor. And power irritation, one of many main causes of that’s sugar. And we all know sugar causes irritation since you get sugar spikes may cause insulin spikes, insulin spikes can create power irritation. And so, sugar is sort of one of many massive causes of irritation. After which the opposite reason behind irritation are superior glycation finish merchandise or AGEs. Sugar as soon as once more is a big perpetrator right here as a result of when sugar is introduced into the physique, particularly when it’s in extreme quantities, it may possibly truly bond to the collagen of our pores and skin and trigger the collagen, which usually is, the way in which I described, it’s just like the logs of a log cabin. Collagen are these fibros which might be usually sort of caught collectively and are good and agency. However when sugar bonds to that collagen, it may possibly trigger these logs to turn out to be frayed and that collagen to turn out to be principally kinked. And that may trigger untimely ageing. So, irritation by superior glycation finish merchandise, which is when the sugar will connect the collagen, creating these AGEs and by power irritation, sometimes by sugar spikes and insulin spikes.

After which the fourth factor, fourth reason behind ageing of our pores and skin is principally a buildup of mobile waste. And this is likely one of the issues that lots of people extra in conventional drugs don’t actually pay a lot consideration to. You’ll have dermatologists speaking about utilizing lotions on your pores and skin, however they don’t discuss attempting to get that strategy of autophagy revved up. And our cells, as they’re principally present process metabolism and sort of the conventional every day life, will create mobile waste. And that waste must be taken care of, recycled, even reused utilizing a course of referred to as autophagy. And that’s intracellular principally recycling or renewal. And that solely happens if you end up not consuming. And so, taking time to not eat, to quick, can truly trigger that course of to happen by eliminating that intracellular waste. Our cells then perform extra effectively and successfully, and that is also anti-aging as nicely.

Katie: That’s fascinating. And it undoubtedly leads into the query of what we are able to do about it, which I can guess a number of of the potential issues we are able to do primarily based on the way in which you clarify that. Issues like fasting in a approach that’s acceptable for our hormones, lowering our stress degree, being conscious of what we eat, and doubtless consuming extra nourishing meals, much less extremely processed meals. However I’m certain there’s way more that goes into it from there. Primarily based on what you stated, I’m wondering if individuals is likely to be pondering are collagen dietary supplements a good suggestion? Are there some other dietary supplements apart from simply collagen that may help collagen and wholesome collagen matrix within the pores and skin? So, I’d like to delve into that. What are issues we are able to do at residence that assist battle every of these completely different causes?

Anthony: Precisely. And in my guide, Youthful for Life, I’ve principally a three-week jumpstart that includes all of it. And so, the way in which I take a look at it’s it’s weight loss program, it’s what to eat, when to eat, dietary supplements to take, and skincare merchandise to make use of. And when you give attention to these as sort of the first factor, then that may get you actually began. And we have now this 21-day jumpstart the place for 21 days, you principally give attention to these 4 issues, you may actually flip again and see large adjustments in your pores and skin.

So so far as common issues, you talked about collagen dietary supplements. Collagen dietary supplements are very controversial. I’ve received an enormous TikTok viewers, and I posted on collagen dietary supplements, and I’ve people who find themselves saying, “Oh, my physician stated collagen dietary supplements don’t work, your physique received’t soak up it, it will get damaged down within the abdomen.” The very fact is that collagen, while you purchase collagen, you wish to guarantee that it’s in collagen, hydrolyzed collagen peptides, basically. So, collagen is an enormous protein. And when you simply ingest collagen on the whole, your physique, sure, will break it down. If you take a look at collagen dietary supplements, that’s why collagen dietary supplements, the very best ones, are hydrolyzed collagen peptides, as a result of it takes that collagen, that massive protein, and it breaks it down into tiny little peptides and amino acids that your physique can truly soak up. So, your physique does soak up hydrolyzed collagen peptide dietary supplements, and there are research which have checked out it. There are a plethora of research which have proven useful impacts in your pores and skin with collagen. In reality, I’ll simply identify one, which was a meta-analysis again in 2021 of 1,100 sufferers who took 90 days of hydrolyzed collagen dietary supplements, and so they discovered a statistically vital enchancment in wrinkles, pores and skin elasticity, and pores and skin hydration. So, you’re 1,100, this can be a meta-analysis, so this can be a mixture of a number of research. There are randomized managed medical trials completed with collagen discovering principally all the identical issues. And a few of them will truly take biopsies of the collagen two months after any person begins taking collagen dietary supplements and seeing a rise within the thickness of the collagen of that pores and skin.

Katie: That’s fascinating. And does bone broth match into that class as nicely? I do know there’s a variety of discuss by like Dr. Kate Shanahan and others of those conventional meals that we largely have faraway from our trendy diets that appear to be extraordinarily rejuvenating. Does bone broth match into that class as nicely?

Anthony: It does. Now, curiously, bone broth makes a variety of sense, however there aren’t any research that I do know of which were carried out which have truly checked out bone broth and pores and skin. That being stated, what’s bone broth? You simmer all of the completely different, whether or not it’s the toes or the cartilage or any of these physique components, for 48 to 72 hours. The massive factor with bone broth is it’s chock filled with collagen, however there are a variety of completely different bone broths on the market. And one strategy to inform whether or not it does have a variety of collagen is when you warmth it up, it turns into principally that soup. However when you let it cool, if it hardens or sort of solidifies into gelatin, that gelatin is definitely collagen. And also you’ll know then that if it’s received these sort of two phases, relying on the temperature, that most definitely you’ve received a superb bone broth there. Now, bone broth is stuffed with collagen, so it does make sense that when you ingest it, that that ought to enhance the collagen of your pores and skin. I might say that it ought to, however there aren’t any true scientific research that I do know of which have both confirmed it or disproven it.

Katie: Bought it. And also you talked about TikTok. I’ll hyperlink to yours within the present notes so individuals can discover you since you do publish a variety of actually useful content material on there. I do know one other factor that has appeared to go viral on TikTok on the whole is the significance of hydration for pores and skin look. And I’m curious your tackle this. I’m at the moment an enormous fan of including minerals to our hydration as a result of minerals are vital, I believe, for hormones and sleep and plenty of different issues as nicely. However are there any research or have you ever seen in follow a profit for individuals truly bettering their hydration ranges and that benefiting their look of their pores and skin?

Anthony: I believe on the whole, there’s enchancment. I don’t know of any precise research which have checked out it. I imply, we additionally take a look at topicals. If you take a look at, let’s say, moisturizers you’re sort of doing the identical factor. You’re attempting to lock that hydration into your pores and skin. However the way in which I might describe that, I truly had an individual ask me, “Dr. Youn, you’ve talked about 4 causes of ageing of the pores and skin. Why isn’t hydration a kind of, or dehydration?” And the actual fact is, is that dehydration isn’t essentially gonna age your pores and skin on a mobile degree, per se. Now, when you’re dehydrated, sure, your pores and skin can get drier. It may look extra wrinkled. You’ll be able to look older. However the truth is, is that’s not technically older pores and skin on a mobile degree. So, I undoubtedly advocate total hydrating. I believe, within the common, a glass of water is nice, however you additionally ideally wanna sort of get extra particular with it. I do assume the minerals are unbelievable. And also you solely have to ask skilled athletes, school athletes. So lots of them now know that it’s not simply consuming water or, God forbid, Gatorade. It’s consuming water and including these particular minerals into it may possibly actually assist stop individuals from cramping. I truly put minerals in my water the mornings that I function. As I’m getting older, I’m discovering that my arms often will truly cramp up. And so, I began placing minerals in my water each morning, and I’ve that additionally at lunchtime after I’m between operations and stuff, and it actually helps me, too.

Katie: I used to be fascinated to learn this statistic as a result of if we give it some thought, we’re usually instructed we’re 60 no matter p.c water, however actually as people we’re that share of salt water or like mineral-rich water and that’s vital for electrical communication and a lot. And I learn that an individual who lives in a scorching local weather or an athlete will lose extra minerals in 5 years than the typical particular person will in an entire lifetime. And so that basically helped me notice like that is one thing to be intentional about replenishing if I’m going to maintain doing all these actions that launch all these minerals by way of sweat. I additionally wish to circle again to autophagy and see if there are any good common tips for form of maximizing fasting or intermittent fasting for the pores and skin well being facet particularly.

Anthony: Yeah, one of many issues that I encourage individuals to do, as a result of some individuals will quick for weight reduction. Some individuals will quick for hormones. Some individuals will quick, they’ve received many, many causes, however after I’m fasting purely from my perspective with my followers, my sufferers, it comes right down to anti-aging. And so, one of many issues that I like to recommend, and everyone fasts a bit of bit in a different way. I attempt to encourage individuals to do a minimal. Now, a variety of my followers are usually not fairly as holistically educated as yours. And so, for me, I attempt to encourage my followers to only begin with the fundamentals. And so, if all you begin off with is a 12-hour in a single day quick, that’s okay. You recognize, that’s an enormous begin for some individuals. Ideally attempting to get that to a 16-hour quick. So, you cease consuming at 8 p.m. and you then don’t eat till midday the following day is what I attempt to encourage individuals to do. A part of the 21-day jumpstart in my guide does include intermittent fasting.

One of many issues that I’ve, that we’ve seen work very well, was that on the day you break the quick, as a substitute of simply going again to your regular weight loss program, you go to an autophagy supporting weight loss program, okay? And what I imply by that’s that we do know that there are specific meals, although you break the quick, you should still have the ability to promote autophagy and that autophagy persevering with. And we all know that when you eat roughly 25 grams or extra of protein a day, that may cease autophagy together with carbs. So, protein and carbs actually decelerate or cease the autophagy course of. Wholesome fat, nonetheless, don’t. So, there are two forms of meals that may truly promote autophagy you could eat and theoretically proceed that autophagy course of throughout the remainder of that day. And people are wholesome fat like omega-3 fatty acids and monounsaturated fatty acids and meals which might be stuffed with polyphenols. So basically, you’re omega-3 fatty acid wealthy meals, so chilly water fish, salmon, mackerel, trout, tuna, anchovies, that kind of factor. In case you take a look at monounsaturated fatty acids, you then’re speaking about nuts and seeds. After which when you’re attempting to push polyphenol-rich meals, which polyphenols seem to additionally assist promote the autophagy course of, these are sort of just like the darkish coloured fruits, like blackberries, plums, blueberries, strawberries, even black beans. And so, what we’ve completed with the 21-day jumpstart is on these days and also you break the quick, as a substitute of going again to regular weight loss program, you go on this basically autophagy weight loss program to proceed that strategy of autophagy, basically till you may have a daily breakfast the next morning. And we discovered that to be actually efficient for individuals.

Katie: That’s fascinating. And it is smart as a result of your physique can be in a heightened sense of with the ability to soak up issues and also you’re placing actually wealthy, nutrient-dense issues into your physique that it could be willingly uptaking. I’ve observed too, I’ve completed a variety of longer fasts, and I’ve talked on right here about that earlier than. And I discover that a number of days into a quick, I truly will begin craving these precise meals that you just talked about, particularly as I’ve gotten an increasing number of used to fasting. I might crave anchovies and raspberries and sort of odd meals. However it is smart while you clarify it that approach. It’s like my physique was most likely prepared for these meals to come back again in and to have the ability to soak up them.

I do know one other controversial subject on the subject of the subject of ageing and pores and skin particularly is the subject of daylight publicity. And I’ve been an enormous proponent on right here of issues like morning daylight for circadian rhythm and hormonal steadiness. And I personally have some genes the place if I take vitamin D dietary supplements, my vitamin D ranges don’t change. So, I do should get some from the solar. However we additionally know that an excessive amount of solar, in fact, can prematurely age the pores and skin. So, I’m curious your tackle that and what you discover is an efficient steadiness. I have a tendency to only put on a hat if I’m within the solar, however I really like the sensation of sunshine on the remainder of my pores and skin. So how do you assist individuals or what do you advise on that?

Anthony: So, I believe that like with a variety of issues in life, moderation is the important thing. I’ve mates of mine who’re dermatologists who each morning, it might be cloudy out and so they could also be sitting in a basement all day, however they’ll put their sunscreen on. After which I’ve holistic well being mates of mine who’re anti-sunscreen. I’ll inform you for me, I believe that there’s a good blissful medium there someplace. Primary, doctor, particularly as a plastic surgeon, I’ve seen horrific pores and skin most cancers points in sufferers of mine and even mates of mine the place they get a pores and skin most cancers, they get Mohs surgical procedure, and half their nostril is gone afterwards. They usually come to me and I’m like, how do I reconstruct this? I imply, when you get a pores and skin most cancers in your face, it may be completely devastating. And so, you wanna do what you may to stop that, particularly when you’ve received lighter coloured pores and skin and also you’re at larger threat.

So undoubtedly I encourage individuals total to put on sunblock, at the least an SPF of 30, particularly while you’re gonna be out within the solar. Nonetheless, I additionally know residing in Detroit, how therapeutic it’s to get the solar in your face, to see the daylight within the morning, and to actually get that solar. I imply, we escape to the Caribbean sometimes each winter as a result of man, it’s simply powerful right here within the wintertime. So, I do assume that there’s a contented medium there. I believe that monitoring your vitamin D ranges, I believe is certainly vital. Ideally carrying the sunscreen, particularly when you’re gonna be out, however on the similar time, additionally getting that solar that you just want on your personal psychological well being and on your religious well being and on your interior well being as nicely. So, I believe that there’s a contented medium there. I don’t assume you need to go excessive a technique or one other.

Katie: That’s an incredible perspective. And also you talked about collagen dietary supplements. I’m curious if there are some other dietary supplements that you just advocate on the whole. I do know there’s a very customized facet to any type of supplementation, however I might guess there are some which might be thought of typically supportive of pores and skin well being ageing.

Anthony: Yeah, so one of many components of the 21-day jumpstart is a quite simple complement routine that I like to recommend principally for everyone. So, the primary one is gonna be the collagen complement. The second is gonna be a multivitamin. The third one is gonna be omega-3 fatty acids. So as soon as once more, utilizing one thing that’s high-quality omega-3s, I believe it’s tremendous vital. What we do know is that these are wholesome fat that may truly create a discount of irritation contained in the physique. And one of many 4 foremost causes of pores and skin ageing is irritation. And that’s one of many massive issues that you are able to do to combat that. So, omega-3 fatty acids, ideally from fish. In case you’re vegan, then go together with the allergy base, that’s nice.

After which a every day probiotic, I believe is essential. An increasing number of we’re studying that there’s a connection between the intestine and our pores and skin. And there’s a gut-skin axis that we’re studying an increasing number of about. And there are precise research now which might be correlating sure points or situations that you’ve within the intestine, like let’s say inflammatory or IBS with inflammatory pores and skin points. And so, taking a every day probiotic, the concept clearly is, and also you’ve talked about this in your present earlier than, however useful micro organism in your intestine, the well being of the intestine will actually present within the well being of your pores and skin.

After which the ultimate factor I like to recommend is simply taking an antioxidant complement of quite a lot of antioxidants. We all know that our produce, our fruit and veggies, should not have the identical diet now than they did 50 years in the past. There truly was a research, I’m undecided when you’ve talked about this in your podcast earlier than, however they really checked out our produce from the years 1950 to 1999. So, 49 years’ price of produce. They usually checked out how a lot dietary worth the produce had yearly. And that dietary worth decreased yearly in six foremost vitamins. And people embody vitamin C, protein, and iron. And so undoubtedly as soon as once more, taking let’s say a every day antioxidant complement can assist with these tyes of potential nutrient deficiencies.

Katie: And I really like that you just handle the interior aspect in such an in depth approach. I really feel like usually within the skincare dialog, the interior aspect will get ignored. And I’ve had this dialog equally within the oral healthcare house with creating my toothpaste and all of the analysis that went into that and realizing we consider the mouth as form of this remoted a part of our physique, however it’s so interconnected. And it’s not simply conserving our enamel clear by brushing and flossing, which is in fact vital, however it’s issues just like the fat-soluble vitamin content material in our physique and the mineral content material in our physique and the way these issues are interacting in our saliva to have the ability to create mineral steadiness in our mouth.

And I might guess there’s additionally this facet on the subject of pores and skin well being, the place all this stuff we have now in our physique, in fact, are gonna feed our pores and skin from the within out. After which in fact, there are issues we are able to do from the surface in. So, on the subject of skincare, what are some good common tips for individuals to concentrate on to sort of battle these indicators of ageing?

Anthony: And I believe what you stated hits it proper on the nail. Dermatologists historically focus simply on skincare and holistic well being specialists focus simply on the intestine. And I’ve mates of mine who’re like, “Oh, you need your pores and skin to be higher, focus in your intestine.” And it’s like, nicely, you are able to do each. You’ll be able to focus in your intestine, and you should utilize the correct skincare. And ideally that’s the way you wish to deal with it. And I don’t know of lots of people speaking about each. So, I respect asking a query.

What I normally advocate for people who find themselves saying, “Hey, what do I do for a easy skincare routine that I do know is gonna work?” And also you don’t have to spend so much of time. You don’t should do a 12-step Korean skincare routine. In case you preserve it to the fundamentals, that technically is sufficient. So, each morning you wanna cleanse your pores and skin with a cleanser acceptable on your pores and skin kind. In case you’ve received oily pores and skin, then ideally a foaming-type cleanser will assist to cut back a few of that extra oil. In case you’ve received dry pores and skin, then use a milky or hydrating cleanser.

After which after that, you wanna use an antioxidant serum. Vitamin C is the most typical that almost all skincare corporations have. And the concept is you wanna combat off these free radicals. As soon as once more, one of many 4 foremost causes of pores and skin ageing, free radicals, oxidation; antioxidants combat that. So, utilizing an antioxidant serum each morning could be very useful. A bonus is when you mix vitamin C and vitamin E serums, and a few of them include each of them in a single, they’re discovered to be synergistic in research and preventing free radicals. So, when you wanna take that to the following degree, not only a vitamin C, do a vitamin C and E serum within the morning.

After which I might observe that with a sunscreen. As soon as once more, we talked about sort of moderation. In case you want a bit of little bit of solar, by all means do what it’s good to do on your personal bodily and psychological well being. And that’s all you need to technically do within the morning: cleanse, serum, antioxidant serum, and sunscreen.

At night time, you wanna cleanse your pores and skin. In case you solely cleanse your pores and skin as soon as a day, ensure it’s at the least at night time since you gotta eliminate the day’s price of mud, air pollution, grime, and your make-up particularly, okay? Undoubtedly use a cleanser. Some individuals even double cleanse. We’re utilizing oil cleanser first to eliminate sort of the grime and the oil and the make-up, after which observe that up along with your common cleanser afterwards.

And you then wanna apply an anti-aging moisturizer or cream. The one that almost all plastic surgeons and dermatologists advocate, the one which I like to recommend as a place to begin is a retinol. Retinol is a type of vitamin A and might be probably the most scientifically studied anti-aging ingredient that there’s. And the concept behind that’s not solely does it combat ageing, however it additionally causes the pores and skin to show over, it helps to cut back darkish spots, and it may possibly even probably reverse early pre-skin cancers. So, it’s an enormous deal. And when you choose one anti-aging cream, then I might choose a retinol. And most skincare merchandise have some form of retinol in them. Of their, let’s say, even cream.

In case you wanna apply moisturizer on high of that, be at liberty. You recognize, a variety of us, we grew up with our mothers making use of chilly cream at night time. You don’t should cope with chilly cream. Quite a lot of these chilly lotions I’m not an enormous fan of due to all of the perfume and all that that may be irritating to your pores and skin. However when you wanna apply moisturizer on high of that, relying on how your pores and skin is, then be at liberty to try this. However as soon as once more, conserving in thoughts, like hydrating with water, that’s not gonna be anti-aging on a mobile degree, however could be extra for consolation.

After which the ultimate factor is each three days or so, you wanna ideally exfoliate your pores and skin. So, with both a bodily exfoliator, which is usually a little scrub, or you are able to do a chemical exfoliation with an alpha hydroxy acid. And technically that’s it. So, morning, you cleanse, you apply an antioxidant serum, after which a sunscreen, and the night you cleanse, apply an anti-aging cream like a retinol, moisturizer as wanted, after which twice per week or so exfoliate your pores and skin.

Katie: And as you had been explaining that, and that was an incredible listing, by the way in which, I used to be pondering too, these are additionally nutrient deficiencies that always exist in Individuals, particularly internally. Like we’ve seen our ranges of vital issues like vitamin C, like vitamin A decline, particularly with age and particularly with the way you defined our meals has misplaced nutrient density over time. So, it is smart, such as you’re saying, take a multifaceted method, nourish your self from the within out to present your physique these vitamins, after which additionally apply them to the pores and skin. And you then’re sort of hitting each side of it and giving your physique the very best probability at, such as you stated, this isn’t that we’re doing one thing to the physique, it’s serving to the physique do what it already is aware of find out how to do.

Anthony: And that’s precisely what I imply by the entire strategy of autojuvenation. It’s taking all of these issues that perhaps no one has actually put all collectively and saying, “Hey, you already know what, we are able to put all this collectively and we are able to flip again the clock, really feel higher, look higher, have higher power.” And when you wanna take another steps, you already know, there are different issues you are able to do like crimson gentle remedy at residence. That’s an effective way to additionally assist to show again the clock of your pores and skin. Some individuals do dermaplaning, which basically is a remedy we do within the workplace the place you take away a layer of useless pores and skin cells, and you are able to do that at residence. There’s a lot that you are able to do that doesn’t entail injections or surgical procedure.

Katie: I really like that. That was going to be considered one of my follow-up questions as nicely was, is crimson gentle useful? It’s one thing I’ve experimented with. I believe even useful for thyroid well being for me personally was a factor I observed. And now there are such a lot of residence gadgets which might be way more reasonably priced than they was once and that may make that, such as you stated, a house remedy as nicely.

Anthony: And there are research, a lot of research that do present useful results of crimson gentle remedy remedies on the standard of your pores and skin. The query, the research haven’t seemed on the precise mechanism. We predict that which will assist with the mitochondria and serving to with total having your cells basically be extra superpowered basically. We don’t know 100% for certain if that’s what causes the anti-aging, the bodily advantages so far as in your pores and skin, however we do know that there are a number of research that present that the pores and skin does look younger when you do common crimson gentle remedy remedies on it.

Katie: Nice to know. I’m additionally curious, one other factor that appears to be circulating TikTok is the development of doing various kinds of like lymphatic or facial therapeutic massage, the place I’ve completed for years dry brushing on the remainder of my physique, not a lot my face. I’m curious if there’s any significance to that that you just’ve seen in your work. I might guess these are at the least most likely not dangerous practices, whether or not or not they’re tremendous efficient is likely to be up for debate. I simply observed, for example, if I do lymphatic therapeutic massage on my face earlier than mattress, I are inclined to sleep very well. And if I do dry brushing within the morning, I get a burst of power. However past that, do you are feeling like there’s something useful to it?

Anthony: So, I believe what you get with each of these is you do get the, principally you get your lymph channels extra lively. And so, we have now lymph channels in our physique, for individuals don’t fairly perceive what that’s, is, you already know, we’ve received blood vessels, we have now veins and arteries that transfer blood, however there’s truly a separate system of sort of like, like vessels basically which might be referred to as lymph and lymph basically strikes immune cells and excessive protein kind of fluid by way of our physique. And so, once we develop, let’s say we have now irritation of the physique, you already know, both from an harm or typically it’s from consuming the mistaken meals and stuff like that, then you may develop fluid that sort of builds up and it builds up and also you don’t eliminate that fluid. You’ll be able to’t push it out by way of the arteries and veins. You push it out by way of the lymphatic system. And that’s what lots of people like with dry brushing. The rationale why you don’t dry brush from the within out is since you wish to push that fluid in the direction of the course of the lymphatics. After I do surgical procedure on individuals, we attempt to have individuals therapeutic massage in the direction of the course of these lymphatics to assist transfer that fluid by way of. So, utilizing, let’s say a gua sha system, utilizing, let’s say a jade curler, that’s what that’s doing helps to maneuver that fluid by way of. Now, when you add that with sure issues like coolness, lots of people put their jade curler within the fridge or the freezer, then you too can assist to shrink among the pores and skin down briefly.

As soon as once more, we’re not speaking a couple of long-term kind of a change, however you may see some good enhancements. So, when you’re going to go to, let’s say, a category reunion and also you wish to do some gua sha previous to going out, that may assist snatch your neckline a bit of bit extra and assist you really feel higher about your look then, by all means, that’s good. Dry brushing, although, additionally provides on high of that, although, the good thing about exfoliation of our pores and skin. You recognize, Koreans have completed that kind of factor for a whole bunch of years, however they’re not good. You recognize, when you’ve ever been to a Korean spa, it’s not only a dry brush. They take what basically appears to be like like sandpaper and so they simply rub your physique from head to toe with it. Some individuals find it irresistible, some individuals hate it as a result of it’s painful, however afterward, your pores and skin’s gonna really feel clean as a child’s butt.

Katie: I’ve gotten to have that have as soon as and it was fairly the expertise, however I don’t assume the tip of my grownup life has ever felt so delicate because it did after that. So, I might be within the class of people that find it irresistible. Curious from a extra superior perspective too, I believe all of this stuff are so foundational and vital for everybody.

I usually discuss this; the straightforward issues can usually be ignored due to their simplicity. Even when somebody desires to do the extra superior biohacks, I at all times say get gentle dialed in first, get sleep dialed in, get diet dialed in, as a result of the rest you do goes to be more practical anyway. However don’t simply leap to the costly shiny objects first, since you’re going to get a greater bang on your buck when you do the foundational issues first. So, I might guess there’s very a lot an analogous factor on the subject of pores and skin remedies. However I do know that at the least from the web, I’ve seen there’s dozens at the least choices of extra superior skincare remedies individuals can do both at residence or in workplace. And I might love to listen to your tackle those which might be truly efficient and price it or perhaps any that aren’t actually price it and or perhaps extra dangerous to keep away from.

Anthony: Yeah, so I imply, the very first thing is after I take a look at it’s a bang on your buck. And the issue that we have now in beauty drugs proper now could be that there are such a lot of gadgets on the market. And the system corporations will promote their gadgets to customers attempting to sort of stress docs and med spots to purchase them saying, “Oh, when you use this, you then’re going to get extra individuals within the door.” And it turns into a scenario the place if all you may have is a hammer, every thing appears to be like like a nail, and you need to be as a client, you have to pay attention to this.

So, when you’re going to get a beauty remedy completed, you wish to just remember to go to a spot that has a plethora of choices obtainable for you, in order that they don’t simply select the one system they’ve that they use on everyone. They select a tool that’s going to work greatest for you. I might begin with the fundamentals. In case you’re new to the cosmic house and also you say, “Hey, look, I’ve been doing every thing that you just’re speaking about, Dr. Youn. I’m doing the weight loss program stuff. I’m intermittent fasting. I’m utilizing the skincare and dietary supplements, however I’ve received these spots that simply received’t go away. They usually actually, I really feel like I’d prefer to clear my pores and skin up. What are you able to try this’s not going to be costly or tremendous painful?” Very first thing I might advocate can be to begin on a brightening cream. Brightening cream that incorporates kojic acid, niacinamide, and/or licorice root extract. That may assist with the darkish spots from the within out. However if you wish to take that to the following degree, think about IPL remedies, Intense Pulse Gentle. This is sort of a laser. The factor with IPL that’s nice is that the gadgets are usually not tremendous costly to buy, and a variety of locations have them. It’s chemical free. So, on your listeners who’re actually eager to attempt to keep away from extra chemical compounds within the setting, that is actually simply gentle that may truly zap the darkish spots, trigger them to show darker, and inside a couple of week, they begin to slup off. You mix that with a superb pure brightening cream and that may actually goal these spots nicely. In order that’s for spots.

In case you’re on the lookout for total simply facial rejuvenation, microneedling is an effective way to try this. Microneedling, I believe, is large with autojuvenation as a result of it basically is utilizing your physique’s personal therapeutic mechanisms to really flip again the clock. I discussed earlier, collagen in our pores and skin, they’re sort of just like the logs of a log cabin. They’re these fibrils that stick collectively. And as we grow old, they turn out to be extra kinked, and so they begin to disintegrate a bit. And any of the remedies that we do, whether or not it’s laser, chemical peels, microneedling, we’re inflicting a managed trauma to the pores and skin. That trauma to the collagen causes the collagen because it heals to heal again in a tighter style. Primarily like placing these logs again tightly into that log cabin. When the remedy is so aggressive that it’s too damaging, then you may get scarring, and we don’t wanna go that far, clearly.

Microneedling is a superb remedy that may be very cheap in comparison with different forms of remedies as a result of the system that we use to do it actually prices us perhaps $3,000 or $4,000 to buy, which within the scheme of beauty drugs in comparison with $200,000 for a laser just isn’t that unhealthy. And what that does, it makes tiny little pokes within the floor of the pores and skin, creating that acute irritation, inflicting the collagen to tighten up. In case you wanna take that one step additional, then you may apply PRP to the floor of your pores and skin and that incorporates progress elements. PRP principally, what we do is we draw your blood, we spin it down, take away the platelets, that are chock filled with your individual pure progress elements. After which while you do the microneedling, principally these tiny little holes which might be made by these tiny little needles go to the deeper pores and skin. In case you do it in a short time after the microneedling and also you apply that PRP on the floor of your pores and skin, it is going to seep into these tiny little holes to basically rejuvenate your pores and skin from the within out. And that is all pure. It’s simply utilizing your physique’s personal regenerative processes. And that additionally, as soon as once more, in comparison with hundreds of {dollars} for a laser or a deep, deep chemical peel, a lot, a lot inexpensive.

Katie: That’s nice to know. And I do know you go into much more depth in your guide, which I wish to ensure we talked about, it’s referred to as Youthful for Life. And I’ll put that hyperlink within the present notes as nicely, since you get very detailed and you’ve got that entire, I imagine, 21-day plan in there. And so, there’s a variety of actually detailed data in there.

However I might additionally like to get your form of fast fireplace tackle among the extra controversial issues associated to cosmetic surgery and all that goes with it. I suppose the primary one can be issues like laser hair removing since you talked about lasers are dearer. I do know there’s ache concerned with that one, good or unhealthy or detached so far as impact on the physique and what you advocate or don’t there.

Anthony: I believe that may be very useful for sure individuals, particularly when you’ve received points with folliculitis, when you’ve received points with ingrown hairs, then that may be very useful. On the whole, we advocate going to a dermatologist or plastic surgeon’s workplace, however there at the moment are at-home laser hair removing gadgets which have turn out to be fairly efficient. And so, if, let’s say you reside in an space and also you don’t have entry to a physician, look into a few of these at-home laser hair gadgets, as a result of it may be, as soon as once more, fairly efficient.

Katie: And so far as I do know, there’s none that work very well for gentle coloured hair. That’s the draw back for me.

Anthony: That’s the difficulty, is you want pigment within the hair as a result of the precise lasers goal colours. Principally, they create warmth primarily based off of the colour. And so most laser hair removing gadgets, the colour is brown. And so, it really works very well with gentle pores and skin, darkish hair. In case you’ve received gentle pores and skin and light-weight hair doesn’t work as nicely, sadly. And also you don’t actually have any, apart from electrolysis, there aren’t some other nice choices for it sadly.

Katie: Okay, that’s what I believed, however good to know and confirm. The following semi extra controversial one I might ask about is Botox. I do know that is undoubtedly widespread amongst a variety of the age teams, at the least the people who find themselves listening. It’s one thing I’ve at all times had a variety of hesitation round, simply having recovered from autoimmune illness. I’m not a fan of placing something that my physique might not acknowledge in my physique, however I do know many ladies do go for Botox. So, what’s your tackle Botox and if execs, cons, what to weigh?

Anthony: So, it’s the preferred beauty remedy within the historical past of the world. About 5 million or extra individuals endure Botox yearly. You might not have identified this as we discuss. I’ve some like proper right here. And what Botox does is it’s a neurotoxin. It’s one of the vital highly effective toxins within the universe that we all know of. However when you inject within the tiniest quantity within the muscle tissues, it is going to stop the nerve transmission to these muscle tissues and trigger these muscle tissues to not work for about three or 4 months. And when you inject it into wrinkles, just like the entrance lens between the eyebrows, the brow, or the crow’s toes, it may possibly trigger these wrinkles, basically, these muscle tissues, to then calm down and people wrinkles to clean out.

There are a handful of individuals on-line who do really feel that they’ve had systemic reactions to Botox, to the place they’ve had sure forms of diseases. I’ve completed a variety of analysis into it. In my follow, we most likely handled 5,000 – 10,000 individuals minimal with Botox. I’ve by no means had a serious complication from it of these 5,000, 10,000 individuals, not one. However we do know that Botox, when it’s injected, can truly get into the cerebral spinal fluid. There have been research which have checked out mice and discovering that. So, you already know, I believe with something, it’s gonna be a threat profit evaluation. I’m not a fan of younger individuals getting Botox as prophylaxis. I believe that’s loopy. There are people who find themselves encouraging that. I believe that when you’ve received these traces, they actually trouble you, you wanna strive it, begin small, begin within the frown traces between the brows, and you may at all times add extra later if you’d like.

Katie: That is smart. And I’m actually not one to evaluate if anyone chooses to try this. The one I might say doesn’t look like an incredible thought to me. And hopefully this isn’t a development that’s catching on. I’ve seen individuals injecting it into their entice muscle tissues to make their neck look thinner. And to me, activating a complete muscle doesn’t look like the very best thought.

Anthony: Yeah, I imply that you already know what that’s, is that there are docs on the market who’re utilizing the Barbie phenomenon to attempt to earn money. And so, the concept is it’s Entice Tox or Barbie Tox is what they’re calling it to attempt to get a Barbie neck. There’s at all times docs on the market, sadly, who’re attempting to control social media and their followers to get stuff that basically isn’t all that useful for them. And a part of it’s to allow them to get within the information. You recognize, it’s a clout factor. Individuals are doing it for clout. And it’s unlucky. You recognize, it’s the identical factor with a few of them recommending like Barbie makeovers. In case you do all these operations to appear to be Barbie. And it’s simply because the Barbie film was so widespread.

However ultimately, with basic surgical procedure, much less is extra. I inform my sufferers, you by no means remorse basic surgical procedure that you just didn’t do. You solely remorse the work that you just did that you just perhaps shouldn’t have had completed. So actually at all times give it some thought. And I’m a plastic surgeon. I do a variety of surgical procedure, however the factor is you wish to use surgical procedure at all times as a final resort. And sadly, that’s not the case for lots of docs on the market. It’s very disappointing.

Katie: And one other much more controversial one, in fact, is breast implants. And I’ve had individuals on right here, each docs and individuals who have skilled signs like a breast implant sickness. So, I’m curious your tackle that and any suggestions you may have earlier than, throughout, after, or on the whole.

Anthony: So yeah, I used to be one of many first plastic surgeons to go public that I imagine breast implant sickness is actual. And I had a variety of my colleagues very indignant with me. You recognize, I went by way of my conventional coaching and was instructed dogma in my coaching is that breast implants don’t make individuals sick. And a variety of plastic surgeons seemed on the moratorium being lifted on silicone breast implants again in 2006, 2007, as being proof that implants are protected.

The very fact is, while you take a look at literature exterior of the cosmetic surgery scientific literature, you take a look at the rheumatology literature, and there are undoubtedly research and surveys and case stories of people that do get sick from their implants. And while you take implants out of any person who believes they’ve breast implant sickness, about 55 to 85 p.c of them, their signs will enhance with these implants taken out. I do imagine and I do know a variety of holistic well being influencers who’ve breast implants, a few of them we’re mates with, widespread mates with, and so they’re wholesome with them, however that’s not everyone. And I believe it’s a person course of. We have to know extra about it and sufferers must be knowledgeable of it. The horrible factor, although, is I do know that there are plastic surgeons on the market telling sufferers that after they come to them and I’ve sufferers inform me this, I went to see this physician, I instructed him I believe my implants are making me sick and he stated I have to see a psychiatrist. Not get my implants out. I have to see a psychiatrist. It’s maddening.

Katie: Wow. Properly, thanks for clearing that up. And I’m glad to listen to on so many of those ranges that there are such a lot of choices individuals can do even from residence that may make a noticeable distinction. I believe that’s actually encouraging information. And I really like that it comes from you being able to advocate each and with the ability to do the extra superior procedures as nicely that you just’re nonetheless the voice of claiming, and there’s this stuff you are able to do that aren’t surgical and surgical procedure won’t be the reply. I really like such a balanced viewpoint. And I really like that you’ve been this voice for therefore many ladies. And a few questions I like to ask for the tip of interviews. The primary being if there’s a guide or variety of books which have had a profound affect on you personally, and in that case, what they’re and why.

Anthony: So, I learn the guide, How To not Die, and I’m not vegan or plant-based, however I actually discovered that one modified my outlook, and actually helped to push me to put in writing the guide that I wrote, Youthful for Life. And the rationale why I believe I discovered it so fascinating is as a result of it was so primarily based in research and references. And that was one thing that for me, I believed, you already know what, if I’m gonna write a guide, I wanna have my guide be as well-researched as his. Now, as soon as once more, I’m not plant primarily based. And among the issues that Dr. Greger has in his guide, I disagree with, however I do admire that he did go the additional route and that every thing in there has proof behind it, as a result of there are such a lot of books on the market that simply put individuals’s opinions on the market and there’s no precise proof behind it. And the truth that he does embody all these references and every thing, to me, that was an enormous deal.

Katie: I’ll embody a hyperlink to that within the present notes as nicely. And lastly, any parting recommendation for the listeners that may very well be associated to the issues we’ve talked about or completely unrelated recommendation.

Anthony: Yeah, my foremost recommendation is you could feel and appear your greatest with out going underneath the knife. In case you simply stick to the ideas of autojuvenation: weight loss program, what to eat, when to eat, dietary supplements, and skincare. In case you simply stick to that, you’re going to be forward of 98% of individuals. In case you add a few of these different issues we talked about, crimson gentle remedy, dermaplaning, when you take note of your sleep, the correct forms of train, scale back your environmental exposures, and also you’ll be even farther. So, give attention to these issues first. In case you’re enthusiastic about cosmetic surgery, do that different stuff first earlier than you go see a plastic surgeon as a result of hopefully you could discover that by doing all this, your want to see a plastic surgeon goes away.

Katie: Properly, I respect all this stuff that you just’ve shared with us on this podcast, like I stated, I do know there’s a lot extra in your guide, so extremely advocate you guys verify that out. There’s an absolute wealth of information in there. Thanks a lot on your time. This has been such a enjoyable dialog and I’m so grateful we received you coming.

Anthony: Thanks a lot, Katie, respect it.

Katie: And thanks as at all times to all of you for listening and sharing your most dear sources, your time, your power, and your consideration with us right this moment. We’re each so grateful that you just did, and I hope that you’ll be a part of me once more on the following episode of the Wellness Mama podcast.

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